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    CAIRO An American-Yemeni cleric whose Internet sermons are believed to have helped inspire attacks on the U. S. has advocated the killing of American civilians in an al-Qaida video released Sunday.

    Anwar al-Awlaki has been singled out by U. S. officials as a key terrorist threat and has been added to the CIA's list of targets for assassination despite his American citizenship. He is of particular concern because he is one of the few English-speaking radical clerics able to explain to young Muslims in America and other Western countries the philosophy of violent jihad.

    The U. S. -born al-Awlaki moved to Yemen in 2004 and is in hiding there after being linked to the suspects in the November shooting at an Army base in Fort Hood, Texas, and the December attempt to blow up a U. S. jetliner bound for Detroit.

    "Those who might be killed in a plane are merely a drop of water in a sea," he said in the video in response to a question about Muslim groups that disapproved of the airliner plot because it targeted civilians.

    Al-Awlaki used the 45-minute video to justify civilian deaths and encourage them by accusing the United States of intentionally killing a million Muslim civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere
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    He has a point in as much that Western forces have killed plenty of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. And he obviously thinks that is a terrible thing, so he suggests that Muslims do the same.

    I'm sure there's a smart bomb with his name on it somewhere.

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    Live by the sword... etcetera and so forth...

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    The civilians don't live by the sword.

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    Thats the trouble with international politics... it doesn't really differentiate between a nation and its civilians...

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    I think the trouble is during international conflict civilians are seen as collateral damage, and in international terrorism civilians are purposefully targeted.

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    Which is just another way of expressing the same thing really. Ultimately it makes no odds. When you respond with violence to opposition (whatever the cause/motive of opposition is) collateral damage is a given; and escalation is a (natural) step.

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    I don't think that's right at all. Western military have spent billions developing smart weapons which drastically reduce collateral damage, and all it could take in some conflicts is one well aimed missile and there would be no collateral damage and no escalation of violence.

    You can't say that all conflicts escalate violence, or we'd have been in a perpetual growing war for thousands of years.

    Western military make efforts to reduce collateral damage, this fucknut in the article isn't talking about collateral damage, he's trying to make excuses for purposefully targeting civilians as part of a terror campaign. He's a fucknut on two counts, firstly his excuses are piss poor, you cannot take the moral high ground by copying what you condemn. The bloke just looks like a complete arseflap.

    Secondly, terrorism doesn't work. It works quite well for the governments of nations that are being targeted by terrorism, they get to make new laws restricting people's civil liberties, but as far as the terrorists go they gain very little if not fuck all.

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    Depends on what you mean by gain doesn't it... or rather, depends on what they view as gain.

    As for us being in a state of perpetual war... we certainly haven't been in a state of perpetual peace, despite the isolated pockets of comparative tranquility.

    The fucknut you refer to is a product of his times and circumstances just as we all are really; right or wrong don't really come in to it.

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    The terrorists make quite explicit demands, they never get them. They gain bugger all.

    The violence of the Second World War for example has not escalated, eventually it ended. The violence can only escalate so far, and then something has to give. Not all conflicts have an escalation in violence, some are over quite swiftly.

    Right and wrong comes into it when clerics start banging on about morality, if they want to drag Islam through the mud then Islamic morality cannot be ignored.

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