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Old 13-09-2008, 17:21   #1 (permalink)
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Default Court: Widow can't use husband's frozen sperm

Iris and Joseph Kievernagel disagreed about having children during their 10-year marriage, and their argument moved into the courts - and the casebooks of legal precedent - after his death in a helicopter crash.

In a ruling made public Friday, a state appeals court said the Sacramento County woman has no right to use her husband's frozen sperm to become pregnant because he had made it clear he did not want to father a child posthumously.

If only one spouse has contributed genetic material, "the intent of the donor" must control its disposition after death, said the Third District Court of Appeal in Sacramento. The situation would be different, the court said, if the dispute involved frozen embryos - fertilized eggs - which would require that both spouses' wishes be considered.

Lawyers in the case said only one previously recorded California ruling, in 1993, had discussed the rights of a surviving spouse or partner to custody of frozen sperm.

The new ruling "provides some much-needed guidance in an area where reproductive technology has clearly outstripped the legal system," said Jay-Allen Eisen, lawyer for the husband's parents, who opposed the widow's request.

Suzanne Alves, a lawyer for Iris Kievernagel, said the court failed to address "the near-impossibility of determining someone's intent when they pass away" and leave no will, as was the case with Joseph Kievernagel. She said her client would consider an appeal to the state Supreme Court.

Joseph Kievernagel, 36, of Citrus Heights, was one of two Sacramento County sheriff's deputies killed when their helicopter crashed into a hillside near Lake Natoma east of Sacramento in July 2005.

The court said he and his wife had a loving marriage, with one subject of disagreement: She wanted children and he did not. They nevertheless tried unsuccessfully to conceive a child and went to a clinic to begin in vitro fertilization in June 2005, but had not completed the procedure before his death.

His widow, administrator of his estate, sought custody of the vial of sperm he had deposited with the clinic. A Superior Court judge refused, citing the couple's contract with the clinic in which a box was checked saying the sperm was to be discarded if he became incapacitated or died.

Iris Kievernagel appealed, saying her husband had signed the contract without reading it and had intended that she have his child. She also cited her constitutional right to procreate.

But the court said such rights must give way to her husband's stated intent not to father a child after death. Quoting the 1993 California ruling, the court said the husband, as the donor, had "sole decision-making authority as to the use of his sperm for reproduction."


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Old 13-09-2008, 22:12   #2 (permalink)
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The right decision, IMO.
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They should be more careful when they fill in the contracts, but it is a strange case. If the couple were trying to conceive I can't see how they ruled that he didn't want children, or what difference that would make anyway.

At the end of the day the contract says that the spunk should be destroyed, so I guess that's it, but don't people get out of contracts all the time? Isn't that what courts do?
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People can get out of contracts, yes, but there are usually penalties. In this case the man's intentions were very clear, so no contest.
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I can't see how his intentions were clear, surely if he's taking part in fertility treatment his intentions were to conceive a child?
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Well, the article says that he (presumably later) didn't want that.

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Default Re: Court: Widow can't use husband's frozen sperm

Yeah, it says that but it doesn't explain how he made himself clear other than ticking a box in the contract. For all we know his widow is right and he just ticked without checking properly.

It just seems stupid to me to assume that a man currently undergoing fertility treatment didn't want a child. As for what he wants when he's dead, firstly it's irrelevant and secondly there's no way of knowing. He didn't even leave a will. So it all boils down to the contract he signed, and that might well have been in error.

I really can't see what difference it makes anyway, he's dead he's not going to give a crap either way. All they've managed to do is further upset his widow.
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Well maybe, but they seem to be clear that that is what he said, i.e. he didn't want children posthumously. Now I don't know why anyone would say that, but if he did, then I think his wishes should be honoured. However, as you say, I don't know how they know that these were his wishes and I've no idea why he would - he either did or didn't want his wife to have children using his sperm. All I am saying is that if he did say that and it can be proven then his wishes should be honoured. That is just my opinion. To be honest I don't give a crap what they decide.
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Going off the article they seem to base it solely on the contract, which the widow disputes. I don't see the point in taking a corpses wishes into account, a corpse doesn't need rights.
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