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    Default UK told to pay £1.7bn / EU finance talks



    We've been told to pay an extra £1.7bn by Brussels, by December 1st!



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    EU finance finance ministers have agreed to David Cameron's call for emergency talks after the UK was told it must pay an extra £1.7bn.

    Mr Cameron interrupted a meeting of EU leaders in Brussels to express dismay at the demand for the UK to pay more into the EU's coffers.
    BBC News - EU agrees to budget talks after £1.7bn cash demand on UK


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    Default Re: UK told to pay £1.7bn / EU finance talks

    That's nothing compared to the money made from trade due to being in the EU.

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    Default Re: UK told to pay £1.7bn / EU finance talks

    It seems that we have been underpaying all these years and now it has come to roost.

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    Default Re: UK told to pay £1.7bn / EU finance talks

    When our economy was shit we had loads of rebates and no one complained. Now we are in the black we pay into the pot. It's the rules of the EU and despite all this UKIP bollocks we are off better in Europe than out.

    We've gained more than we have lost and received shit loads of European Regional Development Funding for endless UK projects.

    More than half of the fucking rural broadband deployment is funded by ERDF so loads of people have something to be grateful for. On the back of that alone, SMEs have started up and farmers can download porn without it buffering or freezing on a cock shot.

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    Default Re: UK told to pay £1.7bn / EU finance talks

    But... foreigners telling us what to do in OUR country!

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    Default Re: UK told to pay £1.7bn / EU finance talks

    Oh and we haven't been told to pay it, we agreed to pay it years ago.

    George Osborne didn't tell David Cameron about £1.7bn EU bill - Home News - UK - The Independent

    Jose Manuel Barroso, the outgoing president of the European Commission, said that notwithstanding Mr Cameron’s claims to the contrary, the bill should have been expected and the charge was based on figures from the UK’s own statistics body.

    “This should not have come as a surprise to the member states as the maths is based on the overall resource decision they have agreed on unanimously,” he said.

    “Of course I understand the concerns it has raised in London, but member states have to accept that sometimes these decisions happen,” he added.

    The revelation that the Dutch Government had put aside reserves to cover a bigger EU bill further undermined the Prime Minister’s case that the UK Government was surprised by the demand.

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    Default David Cameron kept in the dark over EU’s bill for €2.1bn

    David Cameron admitted that he had been left in the dark by George Osborne for two days as he complained that he had been hijacked by Brussels over an unexpected demand to pay £1.7bn (€2.1bn) to the EU.


    The prime minister said he would refuse to comply with the sudden bill, which he first learned about on Thursday, but questions were raised about Whitehall’s competence once it emerged that the chancellor had known since Tuesday. Labour said ministers should have expected the higher bill months ago.


    At a press conference in Brussels, with Cameron’s face growing increasingly red as he became more and more animated, the prime minister denounced the conduct of the European commission. “It’s a €2bn bill. It gets presented with a month to go,” he said. “That is not an acceptable way to behave and it’s not an acceptable sum of money.”


    Asked to explain why he had been left in the dark by the Treasury, Cameron replied: “You want to know the ‘who knew what whens’ and all the rest of it but actually, frankly, you don’t need a Cluedo set to know that someone has been clubbed with the lead piping in the library.”


    The demand comes as Cameron is wrestling with dilemmas over Britain’s future in Europe and making increasingly Eurosceptic gestures to the restless backbenchers who want to deal with Nigel Farage’s Europe rejectionists. It comes weeks before a crucial byelection in Rochester and Strood, Kent, in which Ukip is fighting for its second parliamentary seat and with Cameron under increasing pressure by his party’s right to leave the EU.


    The prime minister sought to regain control by blaming the EU. “It is an unacceptable way for this organisation to work – to suddenly present a bill like this for such a vast sum of money with so little time to pay it. And it is an unacceptable way to treat one of the biggest contributors to the European Union. It is an appalling way to behave. I am not paying that bill on 1 December. If people think I am they have got another think coming.”

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    Default Re: David Cameron kept in the dark over EU’s bill for €2.1bn

    I have no objection to 'richer' countries paying an increased share in principle. The trouble is, I don't believe our money is spent wisely. As far as I'm concerned the EU is corrupt, undemocratic, ridiculously expensive and unfit for purpose.

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    Default Re: UK told to pay £1.7bn / EU finance talks

    If they're spending out money unwisely but we're still financially better-off in the EU, shouldn't it be more important that we make more money despite the unwise spending rather than concentrating on the unwise spending? If we leave and the country loses money as a whole, why should we leave just because of some bad spending decisions?
    In what way is it corrupt?
    How is it undemocratic?
    When you look at the income benefits of being in the EU and what we pay to be in it, how much does it cost us?

    I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested in finding out your opinions.

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    It's undemocratic because only the European Parliament is directly elected by the people. The other institutions making up the legislative body, such as the commission, are unelected.

    It's corrupt because a lot of unelected people have made a lot of money riding the gravy train, and we've all seen the unfinished building projects financed by EU money in Spain, Greece, Portugal etc.

    I don't know what the income benefits are. Has anyone ever been able to quantify them? Even if we are quids in, I'd still like to think money was being spent wisely. I just feel that the whole thing has become too big, too expensive, too cumbersome, and too bogged down with bureaucracy to actually serve a useful purpose.

    I'm not necessarily anti-EU and don't know how I'd vote if there was a referendum, but it seems to me that what started out as a trading block has grown into a monster. All this shifting to Strasburg once a year just to keep the French happy costs an absolute fortune, and the summits which never seem to achieve very much are so extravagantly lavish.

    Maybe I just believe too much of what I read, but that's my opinion. Happy to be educated if I'm mistaken.

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