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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Starbold View Post
    My wife has just said that she got 10 shillings = 50p for our lad, he is 46 now.
    Was that child benefit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by syl1 View Post
    If people are not earning the simple answer is to move to an area where the rents are lower. In London especially (but here too) rents can vary enormously depending on area, so the obvious answer would be not to pay housing benefits in more expensive areas.
    So what would the people that live in those areas do? If I lost my job tomorrow, I can't just move on Friday.

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    Default Re: Should benefits be capped at £26,000 per household?

    There's no way a single person will get £26,000 in benefits no matter what their situation so that figure that's being banded about is going to be for multiple occupants. It's also highly unlikely to be that high for a couple without children.

    So, if we take it that for it to get that high it must include full housing (if you disregard disability benefits) and there's multiple offspring then with a household 'income' of £26,000 per annum minus extortionate rent/council tax then they're not going to be exactly well off by the time they've divvid up the hard cash that's left, although they do get to live in an expensive area. Maybe that's what the tories don't like, that the 'undeserving poor' are living amongst the movers and shakers, maybe it makes them shudder.

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    I know one thing, moving people into cheaper areas isn't going to help them find work. Property prices are often about prime locations for jobs.

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    Default Re: Should benefits be capped at £26,000 per household?

    It's quite clear who they are targeting if they're disregarding people on pension credit, working tax credit and DLA.

    They're not targeting the elderly, the disabled or the ones that are working but doing the shitty low paid jobs (god help them if there was no one left to do those). The elderly and the disabled have huge lobby groups that would wipe the floor with them if they started on those, they are hugely influential and no government wants to upset them.

    The only people left who could possibly be claiming that much in benefit is people, either single or couples, who have multiple children and don't work. As far as I know they don't have an influential lobby group and very little public sympathy as their situation is seen as their own making.

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    I think single parent families deserve help obviously, everyone who is struggling financially needs help, but £500 pw and above tax free is ridiculous.
    Why should households who are on benefits recieve the same as an average household with people who work?
    Where is the incentive in working? A household would have to be earning in excess of £36.000 pa to be left with that amount, which obviously many hard working parents are not and never will be.

    Perhaps building more social houses would help. It would put people back into work and provide affordable housing for a start.

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    Default Re: Should benefits be capped at £26,000 per household?

    The incentive is to be better off. The kind of people who are receiving so much in benefits still use all that money to pay high rents etc... After everything is paid out they're still skint.

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    Default Re: Should benefits be capped at £26,000 per household?

    Well then they should be moved to cheaper housing obviously.

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    Default Re: Should benefits be capped at £26,000 per household?

    And what about the landlord's money? You can't just move out of rented accommodation, you have to give notice.

    So after a period of notice you move an entire family to somewhere that rents are cheaper. The reason the rents are cheaper is because they're in crappy areas with low employment, and finding a job is more difficult for them, so they stay on benefits for longer.

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    Default Re: Should benefits be capped at £26,000 per household?

    Not necessarily.
    What is needed is more social housing. Thatcher sold of a huge amount of council houses and did'nt replenish them, thats part of the problem. So the councils have had to rent off private landlords who have made a killing.

    When people buy property and they are made redundant if they cant afford to stay in that property they have to move. It seems ridiculous that people who dont work and dont pay mortgage or their own rents are being given large private homes costing the taxpayers hundreds a week.

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